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Sherwood Forest: Let’s Go Make Some Beautiful Music Together   1 comment

I’ve finished the game entirely without hints. It was decidedly easier than Masquerade. My previous post is needed for context.

I don’t think my success had anything to do with getting better at figuring out Dale Johnson’s logic; even with some intentional softlock (aka “walking dead”) points, everything is genuinely clued better here than his other games.

Via the Gallery of Undiscovered Entities.

Last time I was puzzled by a boulder I couldn’t move and a cave blasting wind. I had neglected to LOOK BOULDER, having “CARVINGS” on the side:

After some contemplation, I decided “total” strength was referring to not having your strength be split by holding items in inventory, as the “single” man is alone. Dropping everything and pushing the boulder worked.

With the wind stopped, while it meant the cave couldn’t be entered from this direction, over by the cliff it mentions you might be able to “jump” down and there no longer is any wind interfering.

Giving a full map from here:

The slope you land on goes a long way down, with a lifejacket, an ax, and a crank findable along the way. At the very bottom is a boulder (the same boulder you pushed earlier) and when trying to push it from the other side the game indicates you need some leverage. It also has some extra writing.

Going back up, I didn’t have much to noodle with other than the catapult, so I tried INSERT CRANK on catapult and found that it fit. I was then able to TURN CRANK before pushing the button again, leading to landing in a different (safer) spot.

I had already tried using the ax in various places with no luck, but at the bottom of the tree it clearly is intended to be used except the game says it isn’t sharp enough. Oho, so that was what the grinder is for! One restored save game later and re-creating the catapult jump:

The hole lets you jump back in the long sloping passage, but obnoxiously, the pole can’t come up as it is too big. However, it gets used specifically for going down and getting leverage on the boulder. This results in what would normally be a fatal plunge into water except we’ve got the lifejacket now:

SWIM a few times and a trading ship will appear.

I tried walking away and got thrown off the ship, with a message that indicated I could have traded something (on the trading ship, d’oh). You lose everything but the lifejacket when plunging into the water, so that’s the only thing you have to trade. It fortunately works:

The thread left over from sewing up the green uniform works to STRING LUTE (…pretty sure that wouldn’t work in real life, but I’ll accept the cartoon logic in a toon-game). I then took the lute over to the stage with the merry men, and found singing a song put them to sleep.

I was stuck a bit until I remembered that doing DANCE earlier changed their description to ROWDY (also, LOOK ME indicates we are covered with tomatoes). Doing the rowdy-dance first and then playing lute was the right sequence to keep the crowd from falling asleep prematurely:

Marion had indicated we weren’t charming enough, so the charm was clearly the right item to get to her next. (Except she doesn’t like the tomatoes; you need to go back to the POOL and CLEAN ME first.)

From here I was very stuck trying to work out she went; everything including the wedding chapel was empty. Of course Tuck had left prematurely when I gave the penny, so I re-did the sequence while holding on to the penny and found both Marion and Tuck at the chapel once I finished. (For a beginner player, this still seems like the thing mostly like to stump them, because it’s a softlock that can happen from an action long before the final result.)

Marion disappears, and the only obstacle left seems to be the Sherriff of Nottingham. The telescope clearly was pointing the way through, though, and the description mentions a mounting bracket. The only thing complicated enough to hold a mounting bracket was the catapult.

With the telescope mounted, you can TURN CRANK again to get the catapult to zero in on a different target. (This feels vaguely off since you could have technically turned the crank a second time before, but I think the implication is you are implicitly using the telescope to help aim, and otherwise it would be too exact a shot.)

I did PUSH BUTTON expecting some kind of dramatic showdown, but that turned out to be the very last action of the game.

Honestly, it worked for me? I liked the idea of taking a classic story but telling a story about the story, rather than what everyone would normally be expecting. The fact regular characters could be used allows for the “fan fiction shortcut” (like we saw with Trek Adventure) where a complex character can be painted with broad strokes, meaning Friar Tuck walking off with money isn’t surprising, nor the Merry Men being a bit temperamental about what constitutes a good performance. The textual hints were quite good at nudging actions the right direction and if it weren’t for the softlocks I’d be perfectly chipper handing this game off to an absolute beginner; as things stand, I’d probably start them with something like Transylvania but this would land early on the list.

At least the graphics were good while they lasted Dav Halle had developed his own system called Zoom Grafix which partly explains why they somehow lept ahead of Sierra to be alongside Polarware in terms of quality. I’ve been having trouble articulating what artistic direction I’d give to Sierra (assuming I could be alongside their past-artists). Consider an average shot from Time Zone.

The face is bizarre in a way that never gets glanced upon in Sherwood. Depth is particularly flat (notice the bricks). I do wonder if this was partly a technical restriction; if you go back to the finale screen of Sherwood, you’ll notice both characters are made up almost entirely of curves, while the vector-line aspect of the Time Zone thief above is hard to avoid.

In the end it was likely just about professionalization and technical issues. Both Sherwood Forest and Masquerade dealt with real artists, while Time Zone had most of its art cranked at speed by a fresh teenager. Sierra did what they could with their resources, and both Polarware and Phoenix represented the next level of advancement in the software. The combination was enough to cause a vast gulf in the look between the games (not even bringing up how Mask of the Sun had a dedicated team of artists at work).

Phoenix incidentally didn’t last much longer after Masquerade. Quoting the founder Ron Unrath:

By 1984, the software world has changed significantly. Very large companies such as Disney and Hasbro were starting to get involved in publishing, and advertising rates were going up. It was difficult for a small company like Phoenix to compete.

They did make it a little longer under the name American Eagle, even publishing another Dale Johnson game, FrakTured FaebLes, with art by fan favorite Rick Incrocci. Unless some new information is unearthed we’ll need to wait until 1985 to get there.

My prediction is still even looking ahead to just 1983 the art will be on the higher-quality side, but we need to make it there first. So coming up: a computer that failed completely in the United States, only to be given a second life in France.

Posted April 2, 2025 by Jason Dyer in Interactive Fiction, Video Games

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Sherwood Forest (1982)   5 comments

Sherwood Forest is from Phoenix Software. We last saw them with The Queen of Phobos and Masquerade; the latter was written by today’s author (Dale Johnson) before Sherwood Forest but wasn’t published with final art until much later (1984). Today’s game has a different artist, Dav Holle (he is in the “thanks to” credits of Queen of Phobos).

This is the last time we’ll see Phoenix for this blog.

Unlike the Robin Hood game we’ve looked at already (or Sierra On-Line’s take) we’re not re-creating all of Robin Hood’s adventures in his battle with the Sheriff of Nottingham, but rather just trying to get married.

Welcome to Sherwood Forest. Robin needs your help. He doesn’t seem to remember who he is or that he was supposed to marry the beautiful Maid Marion today. It must have been that nasty bump on the head he took while fighting the Sheriff of Nottingham the other day.

From what I have gathered so far, the famous elements of Robin Hood are in but they are getting used in a much sillier way (Little John guards a log bridge, but rather than wanting a quarterstaff fight, he is looking for Robin Hood, since somehow he doesn’t recognize you, and you need to make a green uniform first … look, we’ll get there).

From the Gallery of Undiscovered Entities. There was no Sof-toon #2.

The game is in machine code; quoting Dav Holle about the process:

I did the drawings, and the image compression and decompression, the disk bootloader, and animation and data input code. Dale would get the text strings from my data input, and would parse the text and come up with the text response. His code would also tell me what location should be drawn and what objects or characters should be drawn in the scene, and my code would draw that stuff as needed. All of Sherwood Forest was written in assembler.

The difficulty of Masquerade was listed as Class 5; this is Class 3 so is allegedly easier. I say allegedly because Johnson games always tilted fairly hard; at least the opening was reasonable to do.

Regarding the graphics, notice how the title screen refers to animation. The screen above animates the eyes. The first room has an owl which also has animated eyes.

There’s nothing as extensive here as Sands of Egypt with screen scrolling or Temple of the Sun of a complete motion; it’s all small spots like a banner moving, but it complements the overall cartoon style.

You start out in a quite open area where you’re free to wander. To the immediate west is a pond that has a “grindstone”. To the east there’s a haystack where the text suggest it can be burned to find something inside.

Giving out the full starting map…

…let’s start our tour by going west to the Castle. There’s a taxman on the way, where Robin Hood can do his thing and ROB him.

Robbing the taxman yields a bag of gold dust we’ll be using shortly.

The Sheriff of Nottingham at the castle is pointing at the poster as shown above. It’s supposed to be “you’re going to land in jail” but it’s curious in how it could simultaneously refer to the (future) couple being royalty somehow.

Turning north, down a “well traveled road”, up next comes a Faire.

The gold dust goes to the beggar at the entrance (probably, Johnson isn’t above using “wrong” routes for items).

HE SAYS, “THANKS! HERE’S SOMETHING YOU MIGHT NEED.” HE TAKES THE GOLD, DROPS A SMALL FLINT, AND DISAPPEARS.

The west there’s a dock with no boats (I assume this is for a story event later)…

…and to the north is Maid Marion at a kissing booth.

If you go for KISS MARION, though, she says “SORRY HONEY, BUT YOU JUST AREN’T CHARMING ENOUGH.” (It’s like an amnesia plot, except everyone except the main character has forgotten who he is.) I’m not sure how to deal with her yet, but I’m guessing I won’t have the item(s) needed until the end of the game.

One of the main mechanics to try in every room is LOOK, because it seems to be fairly well behaved about telling you what is genuinely interactable; it may not always be obvious from the initial room description and picture. Here, LOOK reveals and awning — the green awning above the booth — that you should take.

One last place at the Faire I haven’t figured out yet is a stage, with some “Merry Men” watching. You can hop on to the stage and DANCE or SING and get some tomatoes thrown in your direction but I don’t know yet the use of this, other than the MERRY MEN change to ROWDY MERRY MEN.

Circling around the map some more, there’s a tailor and a blacksmith in the center of town. The blacksmith has a broken grinder but while holding the grindstone you can FIX GRINDER. I don’t know the use of this yet. Rather more helpfully it has some STEEL you can pick up.

Before doing the tailor, let’s do a quick stop back at the haystack, because flint + steel means we can now MAKE FIRE.

(The smoke is animated.) In addition to finding the needle in the haystack, if you LOOK ASHES twice you can find some THREAD followed by a penny. Take the thread, needle, and green awning back over to the tailor.

The tailor is out but there’s a note indicating you can drop things off if you want. Dropping off the green awning, thread, and needle, and then leaving and coming back:

This happens immediately, there’s no realistic time passing. I had left the penny for payment but it turned out not to be needed. I guess we have an account.

Circling around our tour further, there’s a wedding chapel with Friar Tuck who talks about “quickie service”.

I gave the penny over and he said he would “put it in the offering plate next Sunday” then left. I assume there’s some important ramification to all this later (either that or I did something wrong).

Little John next! (Again, sort of a “reverse amnesia” plot.) The green uniform is enough to convince him to leave opening the way through…

…although I should point out if you just try to attack him, it results in a death (my first of the game; I thought maybe we needed to wrestle rather than use quarterstaffs).

On to the cave he mentioned! Here I am mostly stuck. First off comes a catapult:

There’s a button on the catapult. If you push it the game automatically assumes you are climbing on before pushing, and it launches you to death. I don’t know if there’s some syntax for launching an item, but I’m guessing the game is fishing for the player providing a method of safe landing.

Further on, there’s one branch over to a “cliff” with heavy winds, where jumping also leads to death.

Finally, there’s the warned-about cave with heavy winds, in addition to a boulder too heavy to be moved.

Trying to GO CAVE results in “A TREMENDOUS WIND” catching you and blowing you to a “ROCKY GRAVE”.

To summarize, I have as open problems the Sheriff, the boat dock, kissing Maid Marion, the merry men at the stage, the catapult, the cliff, and the cave. I don’t have any unused items other than the grinding wheel (which can’t be moved). Unlike Time Adventure, Johnson is the sort of author willing to re-use items, but I get the intuition I’m missing something simple here with what I have. No hints though, please, this has been enjoyable to play so far!

Posted April 1, 2025 by Jason Dyer in Interactive Fiction, Video Games

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